Mini Countryman | Leaking door rubber

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0:00 Okay, so we've got Mini Countryman in today, full of water. I don't believe we're doing a 28 point check, we're just going to dry it out for the customer. So just to quickly do the in video, going around, everything looks okay, can't see anything that sticks out like a sort of thumb, so everything's looking good. Okay. And okay.

0:26 So show me what we're about to expect then. So it's dry now, so this is what's making me think that it's actually alright. I'll get you. They've got very thick underlay under them, so obviously until we look underneath, obviously we won't know. I've looked down the hub, there's a hole here where the grommet was, and I can see the water sloshing about in the bottom.

1:04 I'll get you. So it's more than likely to be passenger front, passenger rear. What about driver's side, anything? Absolutely fine. It's just a passenger side. What was the, was it this they've realigned? Yeah, it said, I say it was getting a bit, it looked a bit white or something, a little bit perished. I'm not quite sure. I'm good sure. I think it might have been there. Possible. Possible. It looks like they've just slid the rubber around, because that's the joint there. Yes, the joints normally down the bottom. Yeah, exactly

1:35 yeah. So it's just, he's just like taking off I think. Okay. Any water in the boot or anything? So that's good. So it's only the passenger side, and there was a little bit in the back. I don't know whether it's like, more than likely what they do is they go that they have like a little trough, it runs down the trough and then it goes into the back, so it kind of misses underneath the seat but goes to the back and the front sort of thing. So obviously you've got some roof

2:04 as well. I checked the vents as well, the vents, I put some water down it and it's actually coming out. Are the drains? The drains, yep. That's all good, that's not a problem. I've checked them, I've checked as much as I've on your videos and stuff, I've done a little bit but, you know, it's like none of them. I'll get you up, that's- I've looked at stuff online and what he was saying about these as well. He's had a new window screen as well.

2:30 That's probably that does, because I said a new window screen, it means these have been off previously. Yes they have. A note what they're notorious for, not putting them on properly, when they break a clip. So that could be one of your problems, and we do know. Yeah. I'll get you up. So we do in a 28-point check, or we just obviously drying it out sort of thing, just trying it out. All right, I'll get you. Okay, so it's be changing them to, obviously drains been checked.

3:01 So obviously these do have a couple of points which leak. You have door membranes, which leak as well. Tailgate rubber normally leaks. You haven't got no water in the back. Sunroof drains normally get blocked, they can cause trouble, but obviously they're running clear. Yes, under here it comes out. Yeah, that's it, it runs down the A pillar inside and then runs out of it. Make up a little thing and squirt a load of water down it, and it just comes straight out on both sides. I'll get you, that's all good, that's no problem.

3:34 Okay, so we've got a Mini Countryman in today, 2013, so we're just going to show you what we've found so far. A couple of points to make: on the front screen we can see that it's been changed before, because it doesn't have a Mini logo, so this has been changed. To change the screen they have to take these A pillars off. And the only thing is, if we can see there, we can see how loose that is compared to the top, so I believe water is coming in through

4:08 the clip down the bottom. And so we are going to require us to do both for these A pillars. And if I just show you on the driver's side, the driver's side is a lot better, so me pulling that, it doesn't move nowhere near as much as the passenger side. If we just open the passenger door, and it hasn't had a 28 point check, we're only doing the like the common bits where it's forming. And this rubber here I believe has been put on the wrong way, and this join is

4:42 possibly got to go down here, but I believe the join goes to about here, not... Not only that, if I just pull down on this rubber, we can see how loose the rubber is. You can see water behind the rubber as well. So what it does is it goes inside the rubber, it will then work its way down using the rubber as a slide.

5:03 And then if we lift up the bottom here, so we can see the water coming out the bottom of the rubber, and you can see there's loads of water built up in there. So what that would do is, once it builds up in there, it will then start running off and it'll start running down, obviously, past the electrics and under the carpet.

5:23 If I just lift up the front carpet. Okay, so this is the underlay. We can see that it's soaking wet here. And there we go. So we can see how much water's actually underneath that carpet in the underlay. We've put three nights overnight dry on this. The reason being is because it's very, very wet.

5:48 And not only that, we have polystyrene inside of the underlay as well, so it is a really big pain to dry. There we go, you can see the polystyrene in now. We can see the wiring loom, obviously submerged in the water. So there we go, so that's everything we believe, and it's in the front and the back, so we'd get that all nice and dry.

6:13 The only thing is, we don't want to dry it all out and then they have the problem again, so I'm just gonna show you where the water's coming in. Okay, so I've got the hose set up, so it's concentrating on that near side front. So if we just quickly jump inside the car without getting wet.

6:33 All right, okay. So we've got our light here. So what we're going to notice is, if we come down the bottom here, okay, so we can see this drop of water here just starting to obviously come down. Okay, so that's obviously what's causing the problem. So if we would have dried it out, this rubber would have just caused water to come back in the car again.

7:22 So there we go. So that's everything we've found so far. Okay, quick video on the Mini Countryman. So we've now removed the passenger seat. We've got the carpet up. So it's currently just letting all the water obviously run out. We're then gonna suck it out with a wet vac, and then obviously we're gonna put our super dryer machine in there.

7:44 So if I just give this a bit of a push, so we can see how wet that sponge is. And this sponge has polystyrene in it, as I mentioned before. And if we just quickly grab this, so you can see there's a lot of water built up in that carpet, and in the back area as well. So we've got a puddle of water in here, also down here, and there's water in here as well. Obviously it's going to keep on dripping down, because obviously the gravity

8:18 is just gonna let it fall out of the sponge. So there's that one there. Just a quick note, on this door rubber, if we close the door, the door doesn't actually close how it should be. And it will be the door rubber down there, so it's not actually sitting in its right place.

8:39 So it's causing the door to push itself out. So obviously we're gonna take that off and reposition that to the right place it should be. We've also took the A-pillars off, so the covers. So these are the little holes. These are the waterproof gaskets which go around them. Unfortunately, this one was missing.

9:01 And if you can see down here, this is one of the clips which has been broke. It's still got its waterproof washer on it, but the problem is, there's a hole going straight through the middle of it. So that can obviously pause the leak as well. Coming around to this side as well.

9:21 So we've got these little holes again. This clip was broken as well, and it was missing one of its gaskets on the clips. Down here, we've got the A pillars. So we've got this one here, which was the driver's side. So we can see that that clip's been snapped. So that's not obviously gonna make a good seal.

9:44 And on this one here, obviously the clip what's missing is still in the A pillar. And this one here is obviously, it's missing its gasket. So there we go. So we can start obviously doing what we've got to do. But just obviously a quick update. Okay, just a quick another little clip which I forgot to add on.

10:07 I don't know obviously if you know if the screen's been replaced since you've owned it. But what it might be worth doing is finding out who fitted the screen. The reason why I say that is because obviously the leak has been caused by obviously the fitment of the A pillars, and so you never know, they might be able to recover some of the cost for you. And but obviously that's just a little bit of a helping tip there. Okay, just a quick video. So we've now cleaned up the A

10:33 pillars. We've put a copper grease, so that coats a nice seal, and I've put new clips on the A pillars as well, so passenger side as well. We took the rubber off and cleaned up obviously where it sits, and obviously all the Carp is still up, but it is still a little bit wet in there, as you can see. And the A-Pillars obviously had all the new clips, so they've all got their gaskets on, which is a good sign, so we can put them back on the car. Okay, so we have the end video on the Mini Countryman. And so the A-Pillars

11:15 have been done, and the door seal on the passenger side has been resealed. And it was a bit hard getting the shape and, because obviously it had been twisted up before, and but it's all bonded back on there nicely. No signs of any leaks when I was giving it a courtesy wash. And so there we go, so it's all dry, ready for collection, ready for the, well, real world test, because obviously cars flex when you take them out. So there we go, ready for collection.

Dec
30
2023

This Mini came in to us for drying, but the leak hadn't been found. We didn't do a full inspection on this vehicle but know the places where they leak, especially when they have had replacement windscreens.

This Countryman arrived full of water on the passenger side, front and back, with the driver's side bone dry. The customer had asked us to dry it out rather than run the full 28 point check, so we went to the places these cars are known to leak.

The windscreen had been replaced at some point; you can tell because the glass carries no Mini logo. That matters, because the A pillar trims have to come off to change a screen, and they are notorious for going back on badly. Pull the passenger side trim and it moves a long way. The driver's side barely moves at all.

The door seal told the same story. The join in the rubber, which belongs at the bottom, had been slid round so it sat part way up. Pull the rubber down and there is water behind it and a reservoir built up inside it: the seal stops being a seal and becomes a slide, carrying water down past the electrics and under the carpet. The door was not closing squarely either, because the rubber was not sitting where it should and was pushing the door back out.

Under the carpet the underlay was saturated and the wiring loom was sitting in it. The underlay in these has polystyrene through it, which makes it slow to give the water up. The drains were not the problem; the sunroof drains and the vent drains both took water and ran it straight out at the bottom of the A pillar.

Solution: the A pillar trims came off. One clip was broken with a hole straight through its waterproof washer, another had lost its gasket altogether, and a third had snapped with the broken piece still sitting in the trim. New clips with their gaskets, copper grease on the seal faces, and back on. The door rubber came off, the channel it sits in was cleaned up, and the seal was repositioned and bonded back where it belongs, which took some persuading after being twisted out of shape for so long.

The seat and carpet came out so the standing water could run out and be pulled out with a wet vac, then three nights on the overnight dryer to get that polystyrene underlay dry. There was no sign of any leak on the courtesy wash, and then the real test, which is the road, because cars flex once they are moving.

One thing worth doing if this is your car: find out who fitted the windscreen. The leak was caused by the way the A pillars went back on, so there may be something to recover there.

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