Bentley Silver Spur Rain Water Leaks

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0:02 Let's start with how long you've had it for. How long have you actually owned it for? Four years. Four and a half. I mean, what led you to find the water? Was there any drips anywhere or anything like that? I was valetting the car and he said we've got a leak somewhere, and it's the passenger's fault.

0:26 That's along with the foot map here, the car map. Okie dokie, so I can't lie to you that I bought a Bentley Continental, complaints about water coming in by the front footwell, mainly on the passenger side. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to go around the vehicle, basically show you how wet it is.

0:44 So if I get a diagnostic meter here, turn it on. As you can see there, it's pretty wet. Not in the red, but you can see it's in the yellow still. So yeah, this foot was fairly wet. Basically you don't have water in the vehicle, because you can get things such as mould and mildew starts to appear all the time, especially if it's rising above the mat, because that's when it's oxidising at a much quicker rate, because obviously it's in contact with the air. So what you're gonna want to do

1:19 is you're gonna want to get rid of that as soon as possible, just by getting a towel stuff. This back bit is fairly dry, which is good, but yeah, like I said, you can get things that's moulded and milled to start up here. Worst case scenario as well, you can't start to get electrical faults, which isn't particularly good, because then you have to spend more money in the long run trying to sort out all them. Then we just get this mat up and I'll show you

1:54 to see if it's wet or not. As you can see, this side is dry. Take a look at the drivers footwell also. Obviously you can have a leak in the front of the car and then it can be wet in the back, just depending on how you park your car or things like that. There's loads of variables that can cause the water to spread through the vehicle. So this side is not showing to be wet. So it's just that front passenger footwell that is the wet one

2:33 which is understandable, as I will show you in a second. But first of all, I'll show you the driver's side. So basically, I'm gonna pour some water down the drainage hole here. And it should be draining out of the wheel arch, so you should see a trickle of water coming out of the wheel arch.

2:48 But if we drain it, I'll put some water down this hole here. Bear with me one minute. So you can see the water's draining, but it's not coming out anywhere. You can't see it coming out anywhere at all, which means there's some sort of blockage going on, and then there's water getting caught up along here, and maybe it's going to sit in that box section. There's a box section right here behind this panel there, and my best guess is that the water's sitting in there

3:34 but if I take you to the passenger side, this is where the real culprit is. So if I go all the way to the passenger side. Do the same thing, try and get it on camera this time. Bear with me. So that's there, gonna pour some water in there and you should start to see.

4:05 There you go, so the water's completely coming out the side, you see there. You can see how much water just came out then. So my best guess is that the submarine pipe is disconnected. It could be a blockage, of course. But my best guess is that some of the pipe is disconnected. You can see water up there as well from where I was testing it earlier. And yeah, I think what I'm going to have to do is I'm going to have to just try and figure out whether that pipe is disconnected or not

4:40 because if it is disconnected, then it means we've got to take all this dash out. All this stuff underneath has got to come out, so that way we can get access to the actual pipe itself. But what I'm going to do is I'll quote for a flush and to clean cassette. We do all sunroof pipes as well; all sunroof pipes we do, front and rear. But obviously if that's disconnected, then we'll be able to reconnect it. And to get to that access point you've got to take

5:04 out all this, the whole shebang. But if I also show you what's going on here, so this door membrane, so I'm going to pull water down the sill here, like that, and basically it should be draining out the drainage points. Got two drainage points, sometimes more on cars. So you see you've got drainage points here, you've got drainage points on there, but you can see this is actually coming out of the door card itself, you see there, all the round marks. So basically the water's

5:35 not being blocked up by the door membrane. Somewhere it's leaking behind here, whether it's the membrane or it's a clip or whatever, and basically when the door membrane sits on here, it then reaches into this trim and it makes its way underneath into the footwell. They're all put on at the same time from the fact with the door membranes, and the fact this one's leaking, and with the age of the vehicle, what we're going to do is going to take all of them off and make sure they're all nice and good. And yeah,

6:01 basically put new door membranes on, so that way you won't have any problems in the future, or not for a very long time. So yeah, with that one, this one is leaking, all the rest are fine, but we're going to do all four just to make sure that they're all nice and waterproof. But if I show you the last problem on this Bentley, baby one minute. Okie-dokie, just so starting off where I left, what I'm going to show you is the air vents. So you can see there how

6:39 much water they're letting in. On the edge of cars, understand what that is, these are letting in so much water. But yeah, what I do is I will get a quote for some new ones and then fit them in. Obviously when we take the bumper off we might have to take these rear lights out, because you can see there usually, I mean with most bumpers you've usually got a clip under here with the rear lights, and then you've got to take the rear light out first, so that way you can pull the bumper out. So what I do is I quote

7:07 to re-seal them as well. Even though they're not leaking, I will quote to re-seal them, but I will take this bumper off, get the new air vents fitted and then, yeah, re-seal the lights. With the door membranes, we have to take all them off and then get some new membrane in there and then seal that up, make sure that's nice and tight. In regards to the sunroof pipes, what we have to do is I'm going to have to just see what's going on with that. Obviously you will see it on

7:33 the estimate, you will see whatever we need to take out of the dash and stuff like that. So yeah, I'm just going to find out quickly about that. But in regards to dry, what we have to do is we will have to take out that front seat, take out that side of the carpet, pin it all up in the air so that way the underlay's not touching the ground, that way there's no static water anywhere, like stagnant water, otherwise you're going to have things such as moulded mildew

7:55 with the water still touching. And then yeah, put her on dry. This one's going to need about two nights just to get rid of all that water. You see it's a heavy leak, so yeah. I mean apart from that, that's all. So what I'll do is I'll get that estimate sorted now, and then yeah, if you can give us a call back and discuss, that'd be brilliant.

8:16 Okay, don't you? So just as my suspicions confirmed, you can see we've taken these Aprilers off here just to double check whether they are disconnected or not. This side, the green one, is absolutely fine. That's connected. Obviously it's still blocked, so it needs unblocking. It's not draining absolutely anywhere. So that'll be backing up into the box section, I can guarantee you.

8:37 But this one, I don't know whether it's some aftermarket sort of thing, but this is a blue one, that's a green one. I don't know whether Bentley's do that, but I've got my endoscope down there right now, and if I give this a little wiggle, you should be able to see the pipe itself. There you go, so you can see the grommet there. Perfect view, got the grommet, there's no pipe attached to it whatsoever. And then you've got that, obviously the blue sunroof pipe which is disconnected, so that's

9:01 why it was coming in so much, because the pipe's just literally letting out into the footwells. So what we're going to have to do is we're going to have to take out all this glove box, take out all of that and get behind there so we can get access to it. But yeah, I mean apart from that, that's all. I'll just let you know, because obviously we need to charge for labour to get rid of all that stuff so we can get access to it. But apart from that, that's all. Right, so I'm

9:29 just going to document something on the Bentley Continental. Quick, or the Flying Spur, so we can. You can get the seat to go up and down and do all the usual stuff. The only thing is, it's been real sort of intermittent in going back and forwards. You can see it's not moving. When you go back and forwards, it's not moving.

9:56 And like I said, everything else seems to be fine. Okie dokie, so I've just got the door membrane off, and you can see that there's been some sort of like job eat to this, because this is all the soundproofing installation, and you can see it's just been held together with masking tape, bit of duct tape there. So somebody has previously been behind these. So yeah, just letting you know that, yeah, that's what's behind them. So I've got to take these off, might have to order some new ones in of these. Obviously what I do is I'll get a price

10:29 from and then send you over the price. But yeah, or I'll send it on a video. But yeah, I've got get these door membranes off. As you can see, it's just coming off. So yeah, got to get these off, make sure they're nice sealant around there and put them back on. So yeah, that's all. Right, so I'm just gonna make a note this quick, and I'm taking off this storming range, just taking that one off. I've taken this bit of trim off which is behind here, and it's missing a bolt. So somebody's definitely been behind these

10:58 So yeah, a bit exciting to see what's underneath. Steve, okay, so I'm changing in this film because we've run into a little bit of difficulty, and I'll show you what it is and then you can then decide what you want to do. Okay, it's not a problem, we've got the bumper off, that's all good now, so that's good.

11:17 So I'm looking at this here, this is the door membrane, your door panels are there, nice and safe over there, but the membrane's what we're looking at now. And Bentley do a nice job, this is like, I don't know, it's like a pressed alloy of some kind, but you know, it's a proper membrane, it's not like we're used to seeing on other cars. We do see the VW ones from time to time that make something similar and they tend to corrode. So if I show you the back of

11:44 this little bit here, just here, you can see there's a lovely gasket all the way up here, and when it goes round to the bottom it's come away from here a little bit. And we could fix that back in, but it's the reason that the door membranes are leaking. Now, what we do when we use doing the VWs, we take this off, and to get this off on yours is this is all attached to your window mechanism and the window movement itself. So it's a tricky one to do, and it might be that we

12:19 need to get some help, or may even need to find a Bentley specialist who would actually do this, because I'm thinking that it might even involve readjusting the glass once it's been put back in. So there's a couple of ways to deal with it. I'm looking at this one and there's no evidence of corrosion on the bottom of that. So we do have a product that we use for plumping up rubbers. It goes into the rubber; this is neoprene, by the way, but it goes into it and it

12:51 plumps it up. And you can see there, look at the condition of that rubber, it's not perfect. And you won't be able to buy that rubber on its own. So we could plump up that, put the stuff on that plumps it up. It's a gel product and we use it for these kind of rubbers, and it does a great job. So we could put that on, and then once that's been on there for a day, then put a silicon grease on the bit that it's going to go onto. So this then would have the

13:21 product that's designed to bump it up, and then the silicon grease would then help make a seal against that. So that's one way. Another way would be that the whole thing would have to come off, and then these be rubbed down on the other side and primed and then painted before this rubber goes on. And that would be calling in an expert to get that off for us, and or maybe that we can't get someone to come in, it must, maybe it's got to go to somebody who's

13:49 a Bentley specialist who's familiar with what's behind here. We can get diagrams up and we can see that, we can get on a special program that tells us what to do. But now we know that, we're looking at it thinking, well, it needs somebody who's done this before. So that's one way. Another way would be then to get new ones, and that's another way you could do it. On some of the old cars we have bonded these on, and that would still be take this off and then you put a special sealant around

14:19 it, and the sealant's like a bath sealant but it's heat resistant, high and low. And you can also, but it would be then bonded to there, and that's what we've done on the VWs in the past when you can't get these parts. So I'm just going to show you around on the other side now and then you can make up your mind. But the vents for the bumpers are on their way, so that we're confident they'll be here. Are they here yet, the vents?

14:45 Oh, they're not here. They're on their way, but we think they're going to be arriving soon. So if you look at this one you can see that this is where it's been obvious, that we can see obvious evidence of them leaking. You see that there, the little tail, and then if you go along here you've got the reflection there. Don't know, well, yeah, you can see it all in the reflection where it's running out.

15:05 So the problem is, is going forward these cars, you know, like all cars, when they get to an age they don't like living outside. So if this has got to go outside, all I can tell you is if we do what we do, we can't be sure. By putting this stuff that plumps up rather, so we can undo these, clean it all through and then put the rubber stuff on, but we can't say for sure that that would be a long-term job. So I'm afraid we wouldn't be able to put a

15:32 a guarantee on it. We would just say look, we will do it, and then you may need to, we can test it, and if it works then, we, you know, then you might find that it might work for the next few years, but we don't know that, and that's why we're making the film. So if you'd say no, leave those, we'll put the panels back, get it to a Bentley specialist, they'll either order new ones or we can tell them what to do, get the whole thing off, rub them down, prime them with a special primer

15:59 and then put. Right, so I'm just gonna give you a little update video on the Bentley. Basically, so you can see we've got that door card off there eventually. Basically what was going on was there was a bolt here and it was basically spinning on the other side, so we had to get something inside of the door card, if you could imagine. I'll show you. If you can imagine, to get it actually up, we had to get a reliever right up there and then pry it, well, not pry it, and then catch

16:39 the bolt and then spin it the other way through that little hole. But yeah, basically you can see, you can sort of see, that's got a water stain there. But we've taken these off, if I show you, the rubbers themselves are actually sort of perished and they're actually not, you can see this one, see how loose it is. This was the one that was actually leaking, so you can see it's just, over time it's completely worn out, and there's no way we're going to sort of bring that back to life, you can see the corrosion all along it, like there. So

17:15 what we'll do is, we'll take off all this, scotch this up, so basically I'll clean out all the dirt, scotch it all up, then put some primer over it, and then what we'll do is we can put our own sealant on it then, that way they should be good for a long, long while.

17:31 You can see I've got the primer at the moment, so you can see that out. They're just all nice and silver, it's all nice and sticky, ready to be sealed. So yeah, what we do is we run our sealant along there and then put the door cards back on. But obviously, because these Bentley ones are so complex and it needs a lot more work done, usually you can just take them off, clean them up and seal them, but you can see these ones are just non-refurbishable.

17:57 But I mean, it's understandable with the age of the car. But yeah, that's all. So we're probably gonna quote for another hour on each door membrane. So yeah, if you'd like to give us a shout and or give us a call, that'd be lovely. Right, so I'm just gonna do a little interim video for the Bentley.

18:17 You can see we've got the door membranes back on, got a nice big bead of sealant under there. So we've had these off, primed them all up, Scotch them, got it all through. You can see all the wire and everything like that was just an absolute pain in the backside, but we've got there, and you can see that sealant is now puffing out.

18:32 So that's not only covering that side, it's also cone and silent leaf. But you can see we've got that one there. With this bumper as well, what we're gonna do is we're gonna have to find some way to get this camera out here. You can see under there, we have to find some way to get out, so that way we can get it off to craft work.

18:52 You can see here, got a lovely fit line of B to C around there, so there's no way water's gonna get through. And on this one, why it was being such a pain was because behind there, like I saw, or I'll send you the video, but you can see the bolt. These have come off, and basically you've got bolts here that hold the window in, clamped, and someone had replaced the original bolt with some sort of free washer bolt type thing. And yeah, so what was going on was it was

19:24 spinning on itself, so you had to get a bar up in there and hold it tight whilst you're spinning the opposite way, in the opposite way. So yeah, but we're getting there, this one, so not too bad. Okay, so we've got a Bentley Flying Spur here, just going under our Reign Arts testing moment. As you can see, it's sitting there in a heavy raincoat.

19:43 So yeah, basically just going for our last little bit of testing. Then once it's all nice and clean, give her a curtain wash, we go for all our checks, make sure it's all nice and dry. But yeah, this one's coming to the end, so yeah, looking good so far. But what goes on next is you'll see this video and then you'll get another video, basically, that the car is ready to come and collect an apple.

Mar
20
2025

The main culprit for causing the wet carpet on this Bentley was a disconnected pipe for the sunroof drainage. It is fairly common on cars with sunroofs for the pipes to shrink with age, and as they shorten they pull off the connectors.

However, this one hadn't shrunk, so it was a simple matter of pushing it back on. We suspect that the reason it had come off was because the pipes had become blocked and somebody had tried to unblock them by forcing water down them with a pressure washer.

The moisture meter put the passenger footwell in the yellow rather than the red: wet, but not soaked. Our inspection also revealed the door cars were leaking and the rear air vents. These issues are common to all cars --  it isn't a design flaw, it's just age. Rubber doesn't last forever.

Fixing the issue isn't such a simple matter, as the door mechanisms are complex and contain sensors. We didn't know if we would be able to remove them or if we should open Pandora's box. Thankfully, we were able to call an old friend of ours out of retirement to come and supervise the removal and refitting of the mechanisms. 

Replacements for the gaskets were not available, so we improvised with a suitable sealant. The customer was consulted every step of the way and was happy with this compromise.

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